1 00:00:01,420 --> 00:00:04,840 Previously, on L .A. Law. You made a list of reasons you want me to father 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,160 child. I told you, this baby is the most important consideration in the world to 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:10,740 me. Can I have the baby? 4 00:00:16,340 --> 00:00:21,140 I've been trying to convince myself I can do this, but the truth is, I can't. 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:25,920 Hey, how you doing? 6 00:00:26,100 --> 00:00:27,100 Fine, thank you. 7 00:00:28,220 --> 00:00:29,300 Get all your shopping done? 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,400 Most of it. How about you? 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,500 Nothing. I'm going to be in the stores like every night between now and 10 00:00:34,500 --> 00:00:35,500 Christmas. 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,000 That's a pretty cross. 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:39,560 Thanks. 13 00:00:39,940 --> 00:00:41,160 Can I ask you a question? 14 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:42,440 Mm -hmm. 15 00:00:43,100 --> 00:00:44,720 Do you wear it as a religious symbol? 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,220 As opposed to what? 17 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,240 The way it looks. 18 00:00:48,980 --> 00:00:50,960 I don't know. I don't usually separate the two things. 19 00:00:52,500 --> 00:00:53,600 I was just curious. 20 00:00:55,100 --> 00:00:56,200 What are you curious about? 21 00:00:57,380 --> 00:01:01,550 Well, I guess... I'm curious about whether or not you're a religious 22 00:01:01,550 --> 00:01:02,610 I know that's none of my business. 23 00:01:03,410 --> 00:01:04,730 Well, if it so happens, I am. 24 00:01:08,930 --> 00:01:10,610 I'm not religious the way you are. 25 00:01:11,530 --> 00:01:12,530 That's all right. 26 00:01:12,790 --> 00:01:15,970 Is that all right? I don't mean to sound as if I'm judging you. It's just 27 00:01:15,970 --> 00:01:19,750 sometimes I feel that people who wear crosses, especially who wear ones like 28 00:01:19,750 --> 00:01:23,110 that, it's just fashion. They don't think about what it stands for. You 29 00:01:23,130 --> 00:01:25,150 Jane, I went to Catholic school for 12 years. 30 00:01:25,990 --> 00:01:27,510 I know about Jesus Christ. 31 00:01:28,010 --> 00:01:29,270 I know about the Blessed Virgin. 32 00:01:29,710 --> 00:01:33,530 I know all the stations of the cross and all the sacraments and all about the 33 00:01:33,530 --> 00:01:34,530 lives of the saints, okay? 34 00:01:36,370 --> 00:01:40,710 Whether or not I still go to church, whether or not I read the Bible or even 35 00:01:40,710 --> 00:01:43,870 a Bible, this is as much mine to wear as it is yours. 36 00:01:45,090 --> 00:01:46,250 You're absolutely right. 37 00:03:21,260 --> 00:03:24,760 In the lane, snow is glistening. 38 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,780 A beautiful sight, we're happy tonight. 39 00:03:29,500 --> 00:03:32,380 Walking in a winter wonderland. 40 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,580 Gone away is a new bird. 41 00:03:36,940 --> 00:03:40,560 Here today is a new bird. 42 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,620 These things are gone as we go along. 43 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,080 Walking in a winter wonderland. 44 00:03:48,780 --> 00:03:50,540 Pincus versus Pincus. 45 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,120 We represent Nat Pinkett. 46 00:03:52,580 --> 00:03:54,160 I'm appearing with the permission of the court. 47 00:03:54,580 --> 00:03:57,400 Wait a minute. You represent the Nat Pinkett, the comedian? 48 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:58,820 Right. You're kidding. 49 00:03:59,020 --> 00:04:02,140 What's the case? Nat's living with a woman who's about 30 years younger than 50 00:04:02,140 --> 00:04:05,740 him. His son thinks she's taking undue financial advantage, and he wants his 51 00:04:05,740 --> 00:04:07,660 father declared incompetent to manage his assets. 52 00:04:07,980 --> 00:04:11,340 You see, everyone thinks a young woman could only be with an older man for his 53 00:04:11,340 --> 00:04:14,240 money. The truth is, while I think this woman loves him, I've had my doubts 54 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,220 about how competent Nat is. Nat's no youngster. Does that correspond to his 55 00:04:18,220 --> 00:04:19,480 being incompetent, Douglas? 56 00:04:20,110 --> 00:04:21,109 Absolutely not. 57 00:04:21,110 --> 00:04:22,110 Move along. 58 00:04:22,170 --> 00:04:23,570 Ruskin versus Delgato. 59 00:04:23,790 --> 00:04:27,330 This is mine. We represent Bernard Ruskin, a poetry publisher. 60 00:04:27,550 --> 00:04:30,830 He owned a mailing list of people who buy poetry books and attend poetry 61 00:04:30,830 --> 00:04:36,030 readings. A former employee appropriated the list and gave it to Mr. Delgato, to 62 00:04:36,030 --> 00:04:37,030 whom he's currently employed. 63 00:04:37,330 --> 00:04:40,070 Is this likely to go to trial? We're very far apart. It may. 64 00:04:40,310 --> 00:04:41,430 Well, then why are you handling it? 65 00:04:42,190 --> 00:04:45,090 Because no one else is available. It's certainly not because... 66 00:04:45,370 --> 00:04:49,310 Poetry is something that appeals to me. Well, I never thought that it did. You 67 00:04:49,310 --> 00:04:53,150 just don't usually try cases. If I need help, I'll ask for it. You're a little 68 00:04:53,150 --> 00:04:54,990 defensive, aren't you, Douglas? Not at all. 69 00:04:55,230 --> 00:04:56,270 I'm not at all defensive. 70 00:04:56,550 --> 00:04:57,690 I happen to love poetry. 71 00:04:58,030 --> 00:05:02,870 Do you really? Yeah. Emily Dickinson, T .S. Eliot, Shakespeare's sonnets. I love 72 00:05:02,870 --> 00:05:03,569 that stuff. 73 00:05:03,570 --> 00:05:07,090 Oh, I would like to remind everyone that for this year's Mackenzie Brackman 74 00:05:07,090 --> 00:05:11,830 Christmas Party, we are committed to a major gala. Chance to show off your 75 00:05:11,830 --> 00:05:12,830 renovations, eh? 76 00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:14,220 Maybe you can recite something, Douglas. 77 00:05:15,420 --> 00:05:16,700 This meeting's adjourned. 78 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,920 What is your relationship to Nat Pincus? 79 00:05:20,180 --> 00:05:21,180 He's my father. 80 00:05:21,220 --> 00:05:22,540 How often do you see your father? 81 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:24,520 I used to see him at least once a week. 82 00:05:24,900 --> 00:05:30,680 That fell off to twice a month, then once a month, and then he stopped 83 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,500 to see me at all. Was the diminution of visits with your father related to any 84 00:05:34,500 --> 00:05:37,180 specific change in your father's life? 85 00:05:37,850 --> 00:05:41,910 It was related to Morgan Farrell coming to live in my father's house. Would you 86 00:05:41,910 --> 00:05:45,470 describe for us what your understanding of your father's relationship with Ms. 87 00:05:45,670 --> 00:05:46,670 Farrell is? 88 00:05:46,810 --> 00:05:47,810 She's his mistress. 89 00:05:47,870 --> 00:05:51,110 And what was it about her moving into the house that resulted in your not 90 00:05:51,110 --> 00:05:53,110 your father as often as you had before? 91 00:05:53,430 --> 00:05:57,750 I felt as though she was controlling my father. I felt as though she was taking 92 00:05:57,750 --> 00:06:01,110 advantage of him. I spoke my mind. I became unwelcome in their home. 93 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,560 What specifically led you to believe that Miss Farrell was taking advantage 94 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,880 your father? A week after she moved in, he bought her a new Jaguar. 95 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,500 Inside of the first two months, she bought herself a Cartier watch. 96 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,420 Two months ago, he put the house in her name. Would you describe how Miss 97 00:06:17,420 --> 00:06:19,080 Farrell behaved toward your father? 98 00:06:19,380 --> 00:06:23,900 She belittled him. It seemed to me that he was frightened of her, that he was 99 00:06:23,900 --> 00:06:25,060 desperate for her approval. 100 00:06:25,550 --> 00:06:30,230 I felt then and I feel now that it is my duty as my father's son to intervene. 101 00:06:30,550 --> 00:06:33,490 There are those who would say that you're after his money. I don't need his 102 00:06:33,490 --> 00:06:34,550 money. I have enough money. 103 00:06:34,850 --> 00:06:38,270 Then why not let it go, Mr. Pincus? Why not just let your father live his own 104 00:06:38,270 --> 00:06:39,750 life? Because I love him. 105 00:06:41,390 --> 00:06:43,070 And I don't want to see him get hurt. 106 00:06:43,890 --> 00:06:44,890 I have nothing further. 107 00:06:51,010 --> 00:06:52,010 Mr. Pincus? 108 00:06:52,410 --> 00:06:55,370 You said that Miss Farrell belittled your father. Will you tell us the kinds 109 00:06:55,370 --> 00:06:56,189 things she did? 110 00:06:56,190 --> 00:06:58,150 She'd talk down to him. 111 00:06:58,950 --> 00:06:59,950 She'd get impatient. 112 00:07:00,090 --> 00:07:01,090 She'd interrupt him. 113 00:07:02,130 --> 00:07:05,770 When he'd tell a joke, she'd hold up fingers to let him know how many times 114 00:07:05,770 --> 00:07:10,230 recently told it. My father doesn't get quiet too often. She could make him get 115 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:12,730 quiet. She also encouraged him to perform again, didn't she? 116 00:07:13,010 --> 00:07:15,710 Yes, she did. But my father didn't want to perform. 117 00:07:16,330 --> 00:07:20,110 He wanted to sit in kibitz with his friends at the Friars Club. He wanted to 118 00:07:20,110 --> 00:07:22,410 play cards. Your father says otherwise, does he not? 119 00:07:22,670 --> 00:07:23,990 My father says otherwise. 120 00:07:24,390 --> 00:07:25,390 You don't believe him? 121 00:07:26,630 --> 00:07:32,370 My father is absolutely terrified about getting on stage at this point in his 122 00:07:32,370 --> 00:07:35,410 life. He is terrified about getting through a routine. 123 00:07:35,690 --> 00:07:37,410 Is it that he's terrified or that you're embarrassed? 124 00:07:37,710 --> 00:07:42,290 It's not like it used to be, Pop. Don't talk to me! Gentlemen, please, let's not 125 00:07:42,290 --> 00:07:43,310 address each other directly. 126 00:07:43,770 --> 00:07:47,030 Isn't it a fact, Mr. Pincus, that you walked out on your father when he was in 127 00:07:47,030 --> 00:07:49,990 the middle of performing at a Friars Club roast? Objection. I think that's 128 00:07:49,990 --> 00:07:50,990 completely irrelevant. 129 00:07:51,110 --> 00:07:58,110 When I was ten years old, I sat under a table at the nightclub of the Concord 130 00:07:58,110 --> 00:07:59,790 to watch you perform. 131 00:08:00,090 --> 00:08:01,170 I was embarrassed. 132 00:08:03,270 --> 00:08:05,550 I was thrilled beyond belief. 133 00:08:07,990 --> 00:08:12,530 But you always said that you would know when to stop. 134 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,860 You said you didn't want what happened to other comics to happen to you. 135 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:18,920 It happened, Dad. 136 00:08:21,300 --> 00:08:22,300 It happened. 137 00:08:23,460 --> 00:08:25,360 And I got to tell you when to stop. 138 00:08:28,620 --> 00:08:30,040 I got to protect you. 139 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,820 What is the nature of your operation, Mr. Del Giotto? 140 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:39,960 I'm a promoter. What do you promote? 141 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,159 All these shows. 142 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:42,159 Rock concerts. 143 00:08:42,670 --> 00:08:45,250 Celebrity softball games, celebrity golf, celebrity tennis. 144 00:08:45,490 --> 00:08:46,490 We do it all. 145 00:08:46,610 --> 00:08:48,630 Including, of recent times, poetry reading. 146 00:08:48,950 --> 00:08:53,290 Right. You have an event coming up later this week, do you not? Yes, I do. I 147 00:08:53,290 --> 00:08:54,350 have a major event scheduled. 148 00:08:54,670 --> 00:08:56,690 How did you go about advertising this event? 149 00:08:57,050 --> 00:09:00,790 I put a couple ads in the paper, and we have a few radio spots running. You also 150 00:09:00,790 --> 00:09:02,270 use direct mail, do you not? 151 00:09:02,650 --> 00:09:03,449 Yes, we do. 152 00:09:03,450 --> 00:09:06,010 That would suggest that you use a mailing list, is that correct? 153 00:09:06,790 --> 00:09:10,690 Right. How did you come into possession of that mailing list, Mr. Del Giotto? 154 00:09:11,530 --> 00:09:16,130 Well, an individual who works for me compiled it. What was the name of that 155 00:09:16,130 --> 00:09:17,130 individual? 156 00:09:17,390 --> 00:09:22,150 Ira Maitelka. Isn't it a fact that Ira Maitelka compiled that list while 157 00:09:22,150 --> 00:09:24,070 for the Southern California Poetry Society? 158 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,000 I wouldn't know how to answer that. Where was Ira working when you 159 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,920 him? You would know the answer to that. Mr. Brackman, could you control your 160 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:31,920 client, please? 161 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,940 There's a vast untapped market in this country of people who are bound by the 162 00:09:35,940 --> 00:09:39,960 love of verse, and I intend to tap into that market. You're not entitled to tap 163 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,400 into that market. You have no credibility as a poet. You have no 164 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,660 a publisher. Meantime, I'm the one who's out there doing it, and I'm the one 165 00:09:47,660 --> 00:09:51,120 who's getting them in the tent, and I'm the one who's got Mamie Van Dorn coming 166 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,700 in to read poetry, so don't talk to me about credibility. 167 00:09:58,480 --> 00:09:59,480 Hello, Tommy. 168 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:03,360 Roxanne. 169 00:10:03,620 --> 00:10:04,720 Thanks for seeing me. 170 00:10:05,060 --> 00:10:07,280 I know my phone call must have seemed out of the blue. 171 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:08,840 Is everything okay? 172 00:10:09,140 --> 00:10:10,140 Oh, everything's fine. 173 00:10:11,580 --> 00:10:12,580 How's that baby? 174 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:14,820 She's great. 175 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,920 David Meyer and I got remarried. Yeah, I heard. 176 00:10:21,020 --> 00:10:22,600 David wants to adopt Casey. 177 00:10:23,390 --> 00:10:27,890 In order for that to happen, we need for you to surrender parental rights. 178 00:10:28,330 --> 00:10:31,090 I assume that you'd have no objection to doing that. 179 00:10:32,530 --> 00:10:34,710 You know, I've never even seen her. 180 00:10:35,450 --> 00:10:36,810 Well, she's right outside. 181 00:10:37,410 --> 00:10:38,810 Do you want me to bring her in? 182 00:10:41,150 --> 00:10:42,150 Yeah. 183 00:10:51,500 --> 00:10:54,960 I'd like to ease any potential awkwardness here by saying that Roxanne 184 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,100 filled me in on the details of your relationship, and I just want you to 185 00:10:58,100 --> 00:11:00,940 that the feeling I'm left with is one of overwhelming gratitude. 186 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,920 This is Casey. 187 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,900 Oh, you did good, Rox. 188 00:11:06,100 --> 00:11:07,160 She's so pretty. 189 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,280 Can I hold her for a minute? 190 00:11:23,670 --> 00:11:26,830 Can I have a little time to think about this? 191 00:11:27,050 --> 00:11:28,710 Do you need to think about it? 192 00:11:30,910 --> 00:11:31,910 Yeah. 193 00:11:32,270 --> 00:11:34,510 What do you consider to be a little time? 194 00:11:35,550 --> 00:11:36,970 I don't know, Roxanne. 195 00:11:38,010 --> 00:11:40,690 We're leaving for Europe in less than two weeks, Tommy. 196 00:11:42,070 --> 00:11:43,250 I can't help that. 197 00:11:47,430 --> 00:11:48,430 Let's go, David. 198 00:11:58,540 --> 00:11:59,540 Tell me what happened. 199 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,840 What happened is that Tommy called me this morning and said that he wasn't 200 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:06,940 to agree to the adoption. 201 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:08,280 Can he do that? 202 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,340 He's the biological father. He does have his rights where his child is 203 00:12:11,340 --> 00:12:13,020 concerned. You remember Arnie? 204 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,760 He told me he had no faith in his ability to be a parent. Which, in the 205 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,060 eyes, will certainly help your case. 206 00:12:19,300 --> 00:12:22,180 You think this will get to court? I think we should do everything we can to 207 00:12:22,180 --> 00:12:23,320 avoid getting to that point. 208 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:24,560 Well, what should we do? 209 00:12:25,140 --> 00:12:27,440 I think we should sit down, the four of us, discuss this. 210 00:12:28,350 --> 00:12:31,150 Negotiate with Tommy. Find out what he wants and how we can possibly 211 00:12:31,150 --> 00:12:32,730 him. What if he still says no? 212 00:12:33,630 --> 00:12:34,750 Then we take him to court. 213 00:12:39,890 --> 00:12:40,890 Tell me something. 214 00:12:41,270 --> 00:12:42,029 What's that? 215 00:12:42,030 --> 00:12:43,210 My mom's still new here. 216 00:12:44,030 --> 00:12:48,190 The other day, Miss Halliday said something to me, and I opened up my 217 00:12:48,190 --> 00:12:50,030 her. Is that like I had a line here or what? 218 00:12:50,330 --> 00:12:51,330 What'd you say? 219 00:12:52,070 --> 00:12:55,490 Well, she implied that this cross that I was wearing was sacrilegious. 220 00:12:56,680 --> 00:12:57,680 Did she say that? 221 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,880 Well, not in so many words, but I know that's what she meant. 222 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:01,960 And what did you say? 223 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,760 Well, I told her I was a good Catholic girl and that I didn't need religious 224 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:05,780 instructions from her. 225 00:13:06,060 --> 00:13:07,440 Well, that doesn't sound all that out of line. 226 00:13:08,220 --> 00:13:11,720 I know she's the lawyer and I'm the secretary, but so what? 227 00:13:12,500 --> 00:13:15,560 For what it's worth, I've never found Jane to be particularly judgmental about 228 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:16,560 stuff like that. 229 00:13:16,740 --> 00:13:17,740 Really? 230 00:13:17,980 --> 00:13:19,520 She might have been just making conversation. 231 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,160 I don't know. 232 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,360 You were probably just thinking about all those times the nuns chastised you. 233 00:13:24,890 --> 00:13:27,410 What makes you think the nuns ever chastised me? 234 00:13:27,750 --> 00:13:28,750 Huh? 235 00:13:31,390 --> 00:13:36,910 In 1985, you were hired by Bernard Ruskin to work for the California Poetry 236 00:13:36,910 --> 00:13:38,150 Society. Is that right? 237 00:13:38,510 --> 00:13:40,790 Yes. What exactly were you hired to do? 238 00:13:41,470 --> 00:13:46,370 General clerical work. We published a number of poetry anthologies. We 239 00:13:46,370 --> 00:13:47,370 poetry readings. 240 00:13:47,630 --> 00:13:49,670 I was basically in charge of the paperwork. 241 00:13:50,030 --> 00:13:52,610 When did you leave your job at the California Poetry Society? 242 00:13:53,310 --> 00:13:54,450 I left in 1991. 243 00:13:54,850 --> 00:13:58,410 And you left to go to work for Bobby Del Giotto. Is that correct? 244 00:13:58,830 --> 00:14:00,770 Yes. It was you who furnished Mr. 245 00:14:00,970 --> 00:14:02,610 Del Giotto with the mailing list. 246 00:14:02,850 --> 00:14:03,729 Yes, it was. 247 00:14:03,730 --> 00:14:08,310 Did you receive permission, either express or implied, for Mr. Ruskin to do 248 00:14:08,430 --> 00:14:10,970 As far as I'm concerned, I didn't need his permission. 249 00:14:11,190 --> 00:14:15,490 I compiled that mailing list. I think that list was mine to do with as I 250 00:14:15,490 --> 00:14:19,770 pleased. I think you'll find the law says otherwise, Ira. That list was my 251 00:14:20,140 --> 00:14:23,760 Those people were my people. Mr. Metallica, is it not correct that while 252 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:28,260 were in the employ of Mr. Ruskin, Mr. Del Giotto approached you and offered 253 00:14:28,260 --> 00:14:31,780 more money if you would go work for him? The money didn't matter to me. Believe 254 00:14:31,780 --> 00:14:36,660 me, I didn't put in the kind of hours I did for Bernard for the stinking $300 a 255 00:14:36,660 --> 00:14:40,800 week. Why did you? Because he was supposed to publish a book of my poetry. 256 00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:45,960 He was supposed to give me my own reading. I worked for him for six years, 257 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:50,000 the whole time he kept stringing me along, and he never did. what he said 258 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,340 do. You weren't ready. I was ready, Bernard. 259 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,560 I gave you over 200 poems to choose from. I felt that you were derivative, 260 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,480 You always say that. How was I derivative? 261 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,620 You aped the beat poet and fell prey to their worst expectations. I did not ape 262 00:15:02,620 --> 00:15:06,000 the beat. Yes, you did. At least let's not use this occasion to corrupt our 263 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,440 aesthetic judgment. All right, that's it. 264 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,640 What's it going to take to settle this? What are you offering? 265 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,980 Bobby, I'm not sure we have to offer anything. I don't care, Lanny. I got the 266 00:15:12,980 --> 00:15:14,420 expo starting tomorrow night. 267 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,780 I can't keep going around and around with this nonsense. Give us a figure. 268 00:15:18,460 --> 00:15:19,480 $15 ,000. 269 00:15:19,780 --> 00:15:23,280 What are you paying Mamie Van Doren? That's not your concern. I am not going 270 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,120 turn the sacred into the profane for a few pieces of silver. I have devoted 271 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,300 myself to the veneration of the poet, the true poet. 272 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,180 I am not about to reconcile with a man who would propagate the masturbatory 273 00:15:34,180 --> 00:15:36,420 revelations of sitcom actors. 274 00:15:36,620 --> 00:15:41,660 Your Poet Expo has met the resolve of a man who believes in the verities of W 275 00:15:41,660 --> 00:15:46,300 .H. Auden and Ezra Pound. And I intend to do everything within my power to make 276 00:15:46,300 --> 00:15:48,830 sure that that grotesque event... never takes place. 277 00:15:49,950 --> 00:15:53,490 What is your occupation, Mr. Taubelman? Personal management. 278 00:15:53,870 --> 00:15:55,070 Do you know Nat Pincus? 279 00:15:55,410 --> 00:15:57,130 For more than 40 years. 280 00:15:57,470 --> 00:15:59,270 What is your relationship with him? 281 00:15:59,510 --> 00:16:00,730 I was his manager. 282 00:16:01,050 --> 00:16:04,030 You're speaking in the past tense. Are you no longer his manager? 283 00:16:04,350 --> 00:16:06,550 That's right. I am no longer his manager. 284 00:16:06,810 --> 00:16:10,230 What were the circumstances under which you stopped being his manager? 285 00:16:10,510 --> 00:16:14,030 The circumstances were that he fired me. What was your understanding of the 286 00:16:14,030 --> 00:16:15,030 reason for that? 287 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,260 Because I told him the truth. 288 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:17,800 He wants to buy her clothes? 289 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,140 Fine. Jewelry? Fine. A car? 290 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:25,080 Also, Fern. But I drew the line at putting the house in her name, and I 291 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,460 line at letting her make decisions about his life. 292 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,660 Would you give your impression of Mr. Pincus' mental condition over the last 293 00:16:31,660 --> 00:16:34,620 year? Objection. The witness isn't qualified to respond to that question. 294 00:16:34,620 --> 00:16:38,140 Honor, it's not coming in as expert testimony. It's coming in as the lay 295 00:16:38,140 --> 00:16:39,580 of someone who has seen Mr. 296 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,620 Pincus at least once a week for 40 years. That doesn't qualify him to 297 00:16:43,620 --> 00:16:46,380 a mental condition. No, the objection's overruled. The witness can answer. 298 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:47,800 Mr. Tavelman? 299 00:16:48,090 --> 00:16:50,130 His mental condition is that he's slipping. 300 00:16:50,830 --> 00:16:51,990 He gets confused. 301 00:16:52,370 --> 00:16:56,050 He says things, and then he forgets that he said them. We would talk about 302 00:16:56,050 --> 00:17:00,450 finances. We would talk about the girl. We would talk about what we had for 303 00:17:00,450 --> 00:17:01,450 lunch. 304 00:17:01,710 --> 00:17:05,829 Sometimes he could follow the conversation, and sometimes he couldn't. 305 00:17:05,829 --> 00:17:10,190 would like to ask for an expert opinion, Mr. Tavelman. I'd like to ask what the 306 00:17:10,190 --> 00:17:12,869 condition of Nat Pincus' finances are. 307 00:17:13,069 --> 00:17:15,329 They're the worst they've been in 35 years. 308 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,960 He has less money in the bank and a greater tax liability than he's had 309 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,500 the late 50s. And what would you attribute this to? 310 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,520 I attribute it to her, and to the fact that Nat can't say no to her. 311 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,120 Objection. Sustained. I have nothing further. 312 00:17:32,900 --> 00:17:36,720 How did you feel about Nat's performing again, Mr. Tavellman? If I thought it 313 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,340 was something that Nat wanted to do, it would be one thing. 314 00:17:39,870 --> 00:17:43,770 The only reason he's doing it is because Miss Farrell over there wants him to. 315 00:17:43,870 --> 00:17:47,190 She wants to be a producer, and he's her ticket. Ask the witness's remarks 316 00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:49,290 regarding what Morgan Farrell wants be stricken. 317 00:17:49,530 --> 00:17:53,310 So stricken? It's a fact, is it not, sir, that in the last four years you've 318 00:17:53,310 --> 00:17:57,170 served at least nominally as Nat Pincus's manager, you've got him no 319 00:17:57,170 --> 00:17:57,829 any kind. 320 00:17:57,830 --> 00:18:00,730 He didn't want any bookings. He didn't want to be working. You say that 321 00:18:00,730 --> 00:18:04,070 notwithstanding the fact that soon after Miss Farrell began serving as his 322 00:18:04,070 --> 00:18:05,090 manager, he was working. 323 00:18:05,290 --> 00:18:07,330 Yeah, he was working. He was working for her. 324 00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:08,590 Mr. Tavenin. 325 00:18:09,020 --> 00:18:11,820 You said that you drew the line at transferring the house. 326 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,220 You drew the line at Miss Farrell making decisions. 327 00:18:14,580 --> 00:18:18,620 Was it really your job to draw the line? Exactly, Mr. Payne. Hey, Junior, we go 328 00:18:18,620 --> 00:18:20,440 back to 1953 together. 329 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:25,120 Nobody ever told me what was or what wasn't my job. Is it possible, Mr. 330 00:18:25,260 --> 00:18:27,840 Tavelman, that you're angry because somebody finally did? 331 00:18:28,100 --> 00:18:28,979 Oh, please. 332 00:18:28,980 --> 00:18:31,020 I'm up here for only one reason. 333 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,220 Because I love this guy. 334 00:18:33,690 --> 00:18:37,730 Nat, you're making an idiot of yourself, and you're doing it over a bra. You 335 00:18:37,730 --> 00:18:40,730 should be so lucky, Jack. You should be so lucky to have one like this. Mr. 336 00:18:40,870 --> 00:18:43,090 Pincus, you're wearing my patience. 337 00:18:43,550 --> 00:18:44,550 Excuse me, Judge. 338 00:18:45,370 --> 00:18:47,890 So happened I got this jacket at Sye DeVore. 339 00:18:49,230 --> 00:18:50,830 I have no further questions, Your Honor. 340 00:18:53,050 --> 00:18:56,870 What I think we can accomplish here is talk some things through, work out an 341 00:18:56,870 --> 00:19:00,450 arrangement we can all live with. We are not unconcerned with your feelings in 342 00:19:00,450 --> 00:19:01,450 all this, Tom. 343 00:19:01,610 --> 00:19:06,150 No. Absolutely not. It is a sensitive proposition, and if we have been 344 00:19:06,150 --> 00:19:08,730 in any way about what you're thinking or feeling, then we apologize. 345 00:19:09,050 --> 00:19:11,070 I think that's a fair statement, don't you, Roxanne? 346 00:19:11,590 --> 00:19:14,590 We'd be very interested in hearing what it is you are thinking. 347 00:19:14,830 --> 00:19:18,590 I have some concerns about my daughter's future, and I think I'm within my 348 00:19:18,590 --> 00:19:20,470 rights to have them. No argument here. 349 00:19:20,690 --> 00:19:22,230 I don't consider her to be your daughter. 350 00:19:22,530 --> 00:19:24,210 Roxanne, let's try and be constructive. 351 00:19:24,490 --> 00:19:27,350 And let's address Tom's concerns about Dave Meyer, father. 352 00:19:28,090 --> 00:19:29,090 Will I be loving? 353 00:19:29,350 --> 00:19:30,350 Answer yes. 354 00:19:30,650 --> 00:19:33,610 Will I be steadfast? Answer, another yes. Forgive me. 355 00:19:34,110 --> 00:19:38,550 I don't even know you. What I know is that when Roxanne was married to you the 356 00:19:38,550 --> 00:19:40,170 first time, she was utterly miserable. 357 00:19:40,510 --> 00:19:41,510 Okay, that's fair. 358 00:19:41,790 --> 00:19:44,910 I won't deny that Roxanne and I went through a blue period. 359 00:19:45,450 --> 00:19:48,630 But the point I want to hammer home right now is that things are different. 360 00:19:48,910 --> 00:19:53,990 She is, if I may say so, Roxanne, not miserable now. I love her and her 361 00:19:53,990 --> 00:19:54,990 very much. 362 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,820 And there's nothing I want more than to take care of the both of them. With all 363 00:19:57,820 --> 00:20:00,960 due respect, Dave, that's lip service. You want something. You're saying what 364 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,260 you think you have to to get it. 365 00:20:02,460 --> 00:20:05,740 But there is no indication that this marriage is going to work out any better 366 00:20:05,740 --> 00:20:08,560 than the first one did. Who the hell do you think you are? Roxanne, wait a 367 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,480 minute. Who the hell do you think you are to sit there and pass judgments on 368 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,720 him, our marriage, or anything else pertaining to my daughter's life? 369 00:20:15,820 --> 00:20:16,820 You walked away. 370 00:20:16,940 --> 00:20:20,400 You walked away from me. You walked away from the child you helped create. 371 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,760 Suddenly you've got concerns. 372 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,320 Suddenly you've got opinions about things. 373 00:20:25,660 --> 00:20:27,640 Oh, I don't want to hear your opinions. 374 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,400 I don't want to hear your concerns. As far as I can see, you have absolutely 375 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:36,120 nothing to say. Not about me, not about my marriage, not about my kid. 376 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:38,440 I don't want you in our life. 377 00:20:38,940 --> 00:20:42,620 I don't want you in my life. We don't need you, Tommy. 378 00:20:43,220 --> 00:20:44,440 We don't want you. 379 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:52,120 Ms. Farrell. 380 00:20:52,510 --> 00:20:55,570 Would you describe to the court the type of relationship you have with Mr. 381 00:20:55,590 --> 00:20:57,110 Pincus? Nat and I live together. 382 00:20:57,330 --> 00:21:00,950 Is it reasonable to assume, then, that you're in a position to observe him over 383 00:21:00,950 --> 00:21:01,950 the course of a day? 384 00:21:02,050 --> 00:21:04,990 Yes. In your opinion, is Mr. Pincus frail? 385 00:21:05,570 --> 00:21:07,490 No. Does he have to become confused? 386 00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:11,310 No more so than I am. Would you describe the state of his health generally? 387 00:21:11,610 --> 00:21:15,790 He has some health problems. His pressure will go up. His arthritis will 388 00:21:15,790 --> 00:21:18,410 him. He has to take it easy more now than in the past. 389 00:21:18,650 --> 00:21:19,710 But I'll tell you something. 390 00:21:20,410 --> 00:21:21,930 He's got all of his faculties. 391 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,460 At the time you met him, was Nat Pincus actively performing as a comedian? 392 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,260 No, he wasn't. Have you encouraged him to go back out on stage as a comedian, 393 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,279 Miss Farrell? 394 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,199 Yes, I did. 395 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,820 Did you pressure him to go back on stage? 396 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,200 No, I did not. 397 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,660 Nat was performing his whole life. He got back out on stage because he wanted 398 00:21:38,660 --> 00:21:41,740 to. It's been alleged that you wield a great deal of influence over Nat Pincus. 399 00:21:41,900 --> 00:21:42,980 How do you respond to that? 400 00:21:43,220 --> 00:21:44,280 I don't wield anything. 401 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,240 Nat loves me. 402 00:21:46,500 --> 00:21:48,580 When you love somebody, you want to make them happy. 403 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,040 I think that goes both ways for us. 404 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,080 I have no further questions, Your Honor. 405 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:01,000 Is it your testimony, Miss Farrell, that Nat Pincus is competent to manage his 406 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:01,839 own affairs? 407 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:06,020 Yes, it is. Did Nat pick out the Jaguar? He wanted to buy me a car. 408 00:22:06,740 --> 00:22:09,440 I picked out the Jaguar. How about the Cartier watch? 409 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,480 He wanted to buy me a gift. We went shopping. I told him what I liked. 410 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,120 After about a month of living together, you didn't have to tell him, did you? I 411 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:19,120 don't know what that means. 412 00:22:19,340 --> 00:22:22,960 Well, it means that you had Nat set up credit cards for you. You had his 413 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:23,879 checking accounts. 414 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,020 You were free to spend Nat's money any way you wanted, weren't you? I wanted it 415 00:22:28,020 --> 00:22:31,820 that way. I did it. I wanted it that way. Miss Pincus, that's enough. Your 416 00:22:31,820 --> 00:22:33,500 Honor, I would object to this whole line of questioning. 417 00:22:33,700 --> 00:22:36,820 The issue here is competence, not the relationship between Mr. Pincus and Miss 418 00:22:36,820 --> 00:22:40,140 Farrell. Your Honor, we would argue that the basis for the relationship between 419 00:22:40,140 --> 00:22:41,700 these two people is Mr. 420 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,360 Pincus's competence, or lack thereof. We would argue that Miss Farrell has taken 421 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:50,560 full advantage of that lack of competence. and I believe that we're 422 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,480 demonstrate that. The court would agree. The objection's overruled. Whose idea 423 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,980 was it to put the house in your name, Miss Farrell? 424 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,900 It was Nat's. He said it was better for taxes that way. 425 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,440 Better for taxes? 426 00:23:02,220 --> 00:23:06,140 Do you recall an incident that took place in Nate and Al's restaurant on the 427 00:23:06,140 --> 00:23:09,020 morning of March 19th, 1992? I know what you're referring to. While having 428 00:23:09,020 --> 00:23:12,960 breakfast there, you and Mr. Pincus had an argument, is that right? Yes. And you 429 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,240 walked out of the restaurant leaving Mr. Pincus behind, did you not? Yes, I did. 430 00:23:17,340 --> 00:23:18,139 How did Mr. 431 00:23:18,140 --> 00:23:20,600 Pincus get home that day, Miss Farrell? 432 00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:22,580 He came home in a police car. 433 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,980 Isn't what happened that Nat Pincus tried to reach you on the phone? 434 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,710 Couldn't. Wandered lost around Beverly Hills until he was finally picked up by 435 00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:35,270 the police because he was found sitting on someone's lawn and crying at 9 o 436 00:23:35,270 --> 00:23:37,290 'clock that night. He became disoriented. 437 00:23:37,610 --> 00:23:38,730 We'd had a fight. 438 00:23:39,950 --> 00:23:43,330 It wasn't because he's senile or he can't decide things for himself. 439 00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:46,490 Could have happened to anybody what happened to him. 440 00:23:48,450 --> 00:23:49,930 I never should have left him. 441 00:23:50,310 --> 00:23:51,770 Don't upset yourself, honey. 442 00:23:52,010 --> 00:23:53,110 Don't upset yourself. 443 00:23:53,570 --> 00:23:56,430 Mr. Pinkus. Don't pay attention to any of this. 444 00:23:57,150 --> 00:24:00,170 What's going on here has nothing to do with you. 445 00:24:04,610 --> 00:24:07,290 We can't stop the Expo from going forward, Bernard. 446 00:24:07,530 --> 00:24:08,489 And why is that? 447 00:24:08,490 --> 00:24:10,290 We don't have adequate grounds for an injunction. 448 00:24:10,630 --> 00:24:14,650 That sounds very general to me, Douglas. Tell me specifically, what grounds are 449 00:24:14,650 --> 00:24:15,329 we lacking? 450 00:24:15,330 --> 00:24:17,450 A showing of irreparable harm. 451 00:24:17,650 --> 00:24:21,130 You can't get a temporary restraining order without a showing of immediate and 452 00:24:21,130 --> 00:24:24,210 irreparable harm, particularly when there's a third party involved. In this 453 00:24:24,210 --> 00:24:26,030 case, those people have already bought the tickets. 454 00:24:26,570 --> 00:24:28,270 Well, I'm not sure I accept that thesis. 455 00:24:28,550 --> 00:24:31,510 I've had a lot of people working on this, Bernard. I've researched this 456 00:24:31,510 --> 00:24:32,510 thoroughly. 457 00:24:33,010 --> 00:24:34,430 I must say, I'm disappointed. 458 00:24:35,630 --> 00:24:37,430 We're still proceeding with the lawsuit. 459 00:24:37,790 --> 00:24:38,850 Well, I would assume so. 460 00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:43,810 You know, I have to tell you something, Bernard. 461 00:24:45,230 --> 00:24:46,230 What's that? 462 00:24:46,610 --> 00:24:48,350 I've been reading a little poetry lately. 463 00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:52,990 Is that right? Last night, unable to sleep, I found myself thumbing through a 464 00:24:52,990 --> 00:24:53,990 volume of Kipling. 465 00:24:54,600 --> 00:25:00,080 Though I've belted you and flayed you by the living God that made you, you're a 466 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,940 better man than I am, Gunga Din. 467 00:25:02,620 --> 00:25:04,040 Pretty great, wouldn't you say? 468 00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:05,460 Great? No. 469 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,640 You don't think Gunga Din's a great poem? 470 00:25:07,860 --> 00:25:11,740 No, Douglas, I don't. I think it's mawkish, sentimental, hopelessly 471 00:25:11,740 --> 00:25:15,200 paternalistic, reactionary doggerel. You certainly have the right to enjoy it, 472 00:25:15,220 --> 00:25:18,700 but rest assured, it doesn't even faintly resemble a great poem. 473 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,180 Nothing by Kipling? No, Douglas, nothing by Kipling. 474 00:25:23,180 --> 00:25:26,800 Mr. Pincus, A great deal is made of the fact that you resumed performing. 475 00:25:27,140 --> 00:25:28,960 I'd like to tell a court why you did so. 476 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,260 What should I do? 477 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:31,640 I'm a comedian. 478 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:32,920 Comedians perform. 479 00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:34,520 But you had stopped performing. 480 00:25:34,780 --> 00:25:36,240 What was it that made you start again? 481 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:37,539 She did. 482 00:25:37,540 --> 00:25:42,000 She became my manager. She became my agent. All of a sudden, I had work. 483 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,520 Before she came into the picture, most people thought I was dead. 484 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,320 Two old Jews run into one another in the street. One looks at the other and 485 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,720 says, was it you or your brother who died? 486 00:25:51,980 --> 00:25:53,420 Mr. Pinkett, I appreciate the humor. 487 00:25:53,850 --> 00:25:56,990 Nonetheless, if you could, I'd like you to confine your remarks to answering the 488 00:25:56,990 --> 00:25:59,130 questions. It was apropos, Judge. That's all. 489 00:25:59,370 --> 00:26:00,830 Mr. Pincus, did you read the paper? 490 00:26:01,070 --> 00:26:02,390 Every day. Do you vote? 491 00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:03,970 Every election. Twice. 492 00:26:04,290 --> 00:26:06,450 Are you taking any medication on a regular basis? 493 00:26:07,250 --> 00:26:08,250 My pressure. 494 00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:10,850 That's it. Are you prone to become disoriented or confused? 495 00:26:12,690 --> 00:26:16,610 It happened that one time after leaving Nathan House. That's it. 496 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,980 I had the flu. I wasn't feeling well. I stepped out onto Beverly Drive. I didn't 497 00:26:21,980 --> 00:26:22,980 know where I was. 498 00:26:23,020 --> 00:26:26,920 Mr. Pinkett, I would like you to tell the court whether you feel as though you 499 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,100 can still manage your own affairs. 500 00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:29,420 Yes, I can. 501 00:26:29,540 --> 00:26:34,440 My son may not approve of what I do with my money. He may not approve of who I 502 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,620 choose to be friends with. He may not approve of me being back on the stage. 503 00:26:37,780 --> 00:26:39,500 Last time I looked, I didn't need his approval. 504 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,840 I have no further questions. 505 00:26:41,380 --> 00:26:42,380 Thank you. 506 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:49,660 Is it your testimony, Mr. Pincus, that you are in all respects capable of 507 00:26:49,660 --> 00:26:50,660 performing again? 508 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,000 My dear, when they stop laughing, I'll know it's time to call it quits. How 509 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,960 about when you have to be escorted off the stage? 510 00:26:57,260 --> 00:26:58,700 You're talking about the Friars Club. 511 00:26:59,020 --> 00:27:02,600 That's not what happened. Is it your testimony that you were not escorted off 512 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:03,319 the stage? 513 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,940 It was a bit. I worked it into the routine. 514 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,800 Was rambling incoherently for ten minutes on the stage prior to that? 515 00:27:11,450 --> 00:27:12,450 Also a bit. 516 00:27:13,230 --> 00:27:17,430 Everybody's a critic. Mr. Pincus, that Friars Club appearance was part of a 517 00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:18,650 larger effort, was it not? 518 00:27:18,910 --> 00:27:20,550 I don't know what means larger effort. 519 00:27:20,850 --> 00:27:24,930 Was not Miss Farrell trying to produce a special on old comedians for HBO? 520 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,940 Showtime or whoever she could sell it to. 521 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,000 She's still gone to. Isn't what happened, Mr. Pincus, that Ms. 522 00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:34,660 Farrell's brow beat you into performing? 523 00:27:34,980 --> 00:27:38,920 Absolutely not. Did you or did you not tell your son that Ms. Farrell had 524 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,800 threatened to leave you if you did not perform? 525 00:27:41,340 --> 00:27:45,860 Absolutely not. Did you tell your son that she had promised to reward you with 526 00:27:45,860 --> 00:27:47,420 oral sex if you did? 527 00:27:47,940 --> 00:27:51,240 Objection, Your Honor. I never would have repeated something like that. 528 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,740 I have no further questions. 529 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,880 Excuse me. You almost through? 530 00:28:02,140 --> 00:28:03,540 No. I'm going to be a while. 531 00:28:12,020 --> 00:28:13,020 Ann? 532 00:28:13,540 --> 00:28:18,300 Yeah. I'm going to do something that I thought I would mention to you on the 533 00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:20,580 chance that it might appeal to you as something to do. 534 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,640 What? Just because of what you said in the staff meeting, vis -a -vis your 535 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:25,640 appreciation of poetry. 536 00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:27,920 That's why I thought I'd mention it. 537 00:28:28,140 --> 00:28:30,080 Mention what, Douglas? You haven't mentioned anything. 538 00:28:30,420 --> 00:28:32,640 There's something called a poetry expo. 539 00:28:32,860 --> 00:28:37,540 Given our client's pending action against the promoter, I have to go. I 540 00:28:37,540 --> 00:28:38,780 you might actually want to go. 541 00:28:39,180 --> 00:28:40,920 That's the reason I mention it. 542 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,500 I would love to go. 543 00:28:43,980 --> 00:28:45,760 Goodbye, Tom. Goodbye, Lon. 544 00:28:46,020 --> 00:28:50,900 I'll not flick you in the eye. There's a round in East Texas, and one of us must 545 00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:51,900 die. 546 00:28:52,260 --> 00:28:53,800 I think we could probably move on. 547 00:28:54,860 --> 00:28:58,240 I can't help but feel as though this does represent a corruption of some 548 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,260 I don't know about this. People enjoy this. 549 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,840 Who's to say what serious poetry must not? 550 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:08,320 This is by Ellen Ginsberg and the name of it is Howl. I can't believe that 551 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,060 Van Doren is actually sitting there. I was in love with her. 552 00:29:11,340 --> 00:29:13,680 You knew she was going to be here, right? But I didn't think she'd actually 553 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,940 show. I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness. 554 00:29:20,220 --> 00:29:22,280 Starving, hysterical, naked. 555 00:29:23,050 --> 00:29:28,850 dragging themselves through the Negro streets at dawn, looking for an angry 556 00:29:29,070 --> 00:29:31,430 When was it you were in love with her? I was a teenager. 557 00:29:31,910 --> 00:29:35,670 Outside of a few relatives and some schoolteachers, she may have been the 558 00:29:35,670 --> 00:29:36,930 woman I ever had dreams about. 559 00:29:38,270 --> 00:29:43,110 I'm with you in Rockland in my dreams. 560 00:29:44,090 --> 00:29:50,450 You walk dripping from a sea journey on the highway across America in tears to 561 00:29:50,450 --> 00:29:51,450 the door. 562 00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:54,850 of my cottage in the Western night. 563 00:30:20,830 --> 00:30:24,710 We had the avant -garde poetry of Ira Maitel. 564 00:30:28,830 --> 00:30:35,070 Excuse me, Miss Van Doren. I just want to say I've never forgotten you from 565 00:30:35,070 --> 00:30:36,070 School Confidential. 566 00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:39,730 Aren't you sweet. And I've never forgotten you from Three Nuts in Search 567 00:30:39,730 --> 00:30:40,990 Bolt. Well, thanks. 568 00:30:41,310 --> 00:30:44,430 And, you know, I'd just like to invite you to our office Christmas party. 569 00:30:46,790 --> 00:30:47,870 I'll try and make it. 570 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,360 It'll be fun. 571 00:30:53,160 --> 00:31:00,020 I'm taking handfuls of St. Joseph aspirin for children, and I'm loving 572 00:31:00,020 --> 00:31:01,019 does to me. 573 00:31:01,020 --> 00:31:05,420 The ratcheting, ratcheting, ratcheting is still. 574 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,980 It's finally still. 575 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,280 Look at yourself, Byron. 576 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,540 Look what you've surrounded yourself with, Bernard. 577 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,950 I thought you wanted to be... I thought that was the whole point. What I want is 578 00:31:19,950 --> 00:31:20,729 to be heard. 579 00:31:20,730 --> 00:31:24,790 What I want is for my poems to be read and listened to by people from all 580 00:31:24,790 --> 00:31:30,110 different walks of life. Not just by self -appointed arbiters of what's 581 00:31:30,110 --> 00:31:31,510 and serious and what's not. 582 00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:35,470 I have no trouble whatsoever looking at myself, Bernard. 583 00:31:35,870 --> 00:31:38,450 I'm up on a stage. I'm reading my poetry. 584 00:31:38,690 --> 00:31:41,050 And Mr. Del Giotto said he would get me published. 585 00:31:41,330 --> 00:31:44,730 That right there makes me a lot better off than I ever was with you. 586 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,780 Gregory Corso says, poets walk with kings. 587 00:31:49,020 --> 00:31:50,520 And that's what I want. 588 00:31:51,220 --> 00:31:52,860 I want to walk with kings. 589 00:31:57,460 --> 00:31:59,500 Tommy, why don't you begin? 590 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,680 Actually, I'd like to say something to Roxanne. 591 00:32:17,460 --> 00:32:19,260 Alone, it's okay. 592 00:32:21,860 --> 00:32:22,860 Okay. 593 00:32:24,180 --> 00:32:25,580 All right, we'll be in my office. 594 00:32:44,750 --> 00:32:45,750 I'm listening. 595 00:32:47,690 --> 00:32:50,150 I made a lot of mistakes this past year. 596 00:32:50,770 --> 00:32:51,770 I know that. 597 00:32:54,770 --> 00:33:01,710 But when I looked into our baby's face, it seemed like a miracle 598 00:33:01,710 --> 00:33:03,890 that something so good came out of all those mistakes. 599 00:33:06,290 --> 00:33:09,290 I'm asking that you not shut me out of her life. 600 00:33:12,190 --> 00:33:13,710 What exactly do you want? 601 00:33:18,939 --> 00:33:19,939 bedtime stories. 602 00:33:20,660 --> 00:33:24,860 Help her with her homework. I want to start a college fund. I want to pay for 603 00:33:24,860 --> 00:33:25,839 her wedding. 604 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,820 It's too late for me to make it up to you, but I got a chance to make it up to 605 00:33:29,820 --> 00:33:32,300 her. I want her to know me, Roxanne. 606 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:39,460 I want her to love me not because I'm her biological father, but because I've 607 00:33:39,460 --> 00:33:40,480 been there for her. 608 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,340 Because she'll know there isn't anything in the world I care about more than her 609 00:33:45,340 --> 00:33:46,340 happiness. 610 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:47,800 I... 611 00:33:48,170 --> 00:33:51,470 I may not have the right to ask it of you, Rox. 612 00:33:52,770 --> 00:33:54,190 But I'm asking anyway. 613 00:33:56,510 --> 00:33:57,810 Let me be your father. 614 00:34:05,290 --> 00:34:06,229 All right. 615 00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:08,250 What was so important that it couldn't wait? 616 00:34:10,370 --> 00:34:13,010 We have a proposal to make. What kind of proposal? 617 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,139 We drop our lawsuit in return for you applying your promotional efforts to Mr. 618 00:34:17,260 --> 00:34:20,780 Ruskin's work. What does that mean? Mr. Ruskin would like to enter into a joint 619 00:34:20,780 --> 00:34:25,139 venture whereby his poetry anthologies and journals are marketed by you. He's 620 00:34:25,139 --> 00:34:27,920 interested in you distributing a catalog of spoken word records. 621 00:34:28,460 --> 00:34:31,920 And he would like a booth at the Poetry Expo. 622 00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:33,658 Well, well. 623 00:34:33,659 --> 00:34:37,239 No doubt you'll view this as an occasion for gloating. I have to say that some 624 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,520 amount of gloating would be appropriate, wouldn't you? I assume you're curious 625 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,199 as to the cause of this change of heart. Hey, Bernard, I know what caused it. 626 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,179 You came to the hotel last night. 627 00:34:46,380 --> 00:34:47,460 You saw the scene. 628 00:34:47,820 --> 00:34:49,260 You saw what I can do. 629 00:34:49,820 --> 00:34:52,719 And you said to yourself, how can I be a part of this? 630 00:34:52,940 --> 00:34:57,660 What I said to myself was that there were some projects where perhaps the two 631 00:34:57,660 --> 00:34:58,980 us could combine our talents. 632 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,860 Like what? Like I was thinking of a Robert Lowell festival. 633 00:35:02,250 --> 00:35:07,310 Also, 1994 is the sesquicentennial, the 158th anniversary of Gerard Manley 634 00:35:07,310 --> 00:35:11,590 Hopkins' birth. I thought perhaps we could do something surrounding that. 635 00:35:11,590 --> 00:35:14,350 what? Like, what do you mean, like what? Like what you do. 636 00:35:15,170 --> 00:35:19,110 Like, make a big event out of it. 637 00:35:20,590 --> 00:35:21,690 Have cameras there. 638 00:35:22,090 --> 00:35:23,090 And celebrities. 639 00:35:24,050 --> 00:35:25,050 Like what? 640 00:35:28,890 --> 00:35:31,150 I'm tired of the obscurity. All right? 641 00:35:31,530 --> 00:35:36,210 I'm tired of the same few souls who meet in musty second floor meeting rooms. 642 00:35:36,410 --> 00:35:41,370 All of them poets. All of them academic smartasses who don't make money and who 643 00:35:41,370 --> 00:35:42,530 don't meet women. 644 00:35:42,750 --> 00:35:45,190 They're all just like me, and I'm sick of them. 645 00:35:47,630 --> 00:35:48,870 I want some action. 646 00:35:53,490 --> 00:35:58,850 After considering all of the testimony and all of the evidence, one thing that 647 00:35:58,850 --> 00:36:00,830 can safely say is that this is... 648 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,840 Not a case that can be resolved easily or painlessly. 649 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,640 Possibly it's a case that can't be resolved at all. 650 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,220 That notwithstanding, for our purposes, resolve it we must. 651 00:36:15,780 --> 00:36:20,460 I'm not prepared to rule on Ms. Farrell's motive, nor is it appropriate, 652 00:36:20,460 --> 00:36:23,240 think, that I do so, because only she knows what's in her heart. 653 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,540 I will admit to having a great concern for the welfare of Nat Pincus. 654 00:36:30,090 --> 00:36:33,650 Nonetheless, the evidence is far from conclusive that his decisions are not 655 00:36:33,650 --> 00:36:37,930 reasonable ones, nor is it conclusive that he's being taken advantage of, if 656 00:36:37,930 --> 00:36:40,450 that is in fact what someone close to him is trying to do. 657 00:36:40,890 --> 00:36:45,190 That said, I find the evidence insufficient to declare Mr. Pincus 658 00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:46,190 manage his own affairs. 659 00:36:46,550 --> 00:36:50,550 However, should his condition worsen, I will entertain a new motion. 660 00:36:50,770 --> 00:36:52,790 In the meantime, the motion is denied. 661 00:37:00,670 --> 00:37:04,330 Dad, I'm sorry for putting you through all of this. 662 00:37:05,930 --> 00:37:06,930 Tell her. 663 00:37:14,030 --> 00:37:15,030 It's okay. 664 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:23,960 Well, 665 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,060 Merry Christmas, Jonathan. 666 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,860 Move along, Douglas. I loved your reading yesterday. 667 00:37:32,300 --> 00:37:34,860 Really? What was it that you loved? 668 00:37:35,180 --> 00:37:39,180 Me reading Alan Ginsberg or me wearing what I was wearing? 669 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:40,640 It was both. 670 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,000 Don't lie to me now, Douglas. 671 00:37:44,540 --> 00:37:46,480 Maybe. It so happens I love poetry. 672 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,000 Do you? 673 00:37:48,270 --> 00:37:53,330 Ship me somewhere east of Suez, where the best is like the worst, where there 674 00:37:53,330 --> 00:37:56,290 aren't no Ten Commandments and a man can raise a thirst. 675 00:37:57,490 --> 00:38:03,970 Oh, the road to Mandalay, where the flying fishes play, and the dawn comes 676 00:38:03,970 --> 00:38:04,970 like thunder. 677 00:38:05,630 --> 00:38:08,970 Outer China, across the bay. 678 00:38:09,630 --> 00:38:11,590 You like Kipling. 679 00:38:12,750 --> 00:38:14,370 I love Kipling. 680 00:38:14,770 --> 00:38:16,570 Well, they're done with Danny Deaver. 681 00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:21,280 You can hear the quick step play, the regiments in column, and they're 682 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,158 us away. 683 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:27,820 Oh, the recruits are shaken, and they'll want their beer today after hanging 684 00:38:27,820 --> 00:38:29,200 Danny Deaver in the morning. 685 00:38:31,420 --> 00:38:33,100 No one loves Kipling more than I do. 686 00:38:36,780 --> 00:38:37,880 Aren't you coming to the party? 687 00:38:38,740 --> 00:38:40,940 I'm going to finish this up first. I'll be right out. 688 00:38:42,380 --> 00:38:44,460 You know that poetry thing I went to yesterday? 689 00:38:45,180 --> 00:38:46,180 Mm -hmm. 690 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,620 You'll never believe what I dug up when I came home. 691 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:54,540 What? I dug up a notebook of poetry that I wrote when I was a sophomore at Mount 692 00:38:54,540 --> 00:38:55,540 Holyoke. You're kidding. 693 00:38:56,780 --> 00:39:01,720 That I would actually have sat down and written some of these is truly hard to 694 00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:03,100 imagine. I bet it is. 695 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,620 Listen to this. I want to give you an idea of my state of mind at the time. 696 00:39:08,980 --> 00:39:09,980 Oh, rain. 697 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,520 Oh, driving, relentless, unconflicted rain. 698 00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:15,700 Everything I look at is gray. 699 00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:17,380 and still. 700 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,260 All except for a ripe green pear. 701 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,680 Hi, little cat. 702 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,640 What sets me apart from you? It must be that I'm sad. 703 00:39:33,140 --> 00:39:35,520 What do you mean? 704 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,440 I mean, I mean, you're right. It's pretty bad. 705 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,260 Hi, little cat. I don't remember saying that I thought it was bad, Stuart. You 706 00:39:44,260 --> 00:39:45,720 did. I thought... 707 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,360 When you came in, the whole point of it was that it was bad. 708 00:39:48,820 --> 00:39:51,100 I thought that was the whole point. Forget it. 709 00:39:52,060 --> 00:39:54,560 I should realize that there are some things I can't trust you with. 710 00:39:56,020 --> 00:39:58,320 Obviously, my innermost thoughts are at the top of the list. 711 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,680 I have to tell you, Daniel. 712 00:40:04,330 --> 00:40:07,270 I think that young woman architect did a superb job. 713 00:40:07,530 --> 00:40:11,090 You should tell her, Leland. I will if she hears. She couldn't make it. Leland, 714 00:40:11,150 --> 00:40:13,750 Daniel. How'd it go? We were in all respects successful. Congratulations. 715 00:40:14,130 --> 00:40:17,290 Thank you. I'd like to meet Nat Pincus, Morgan Farrell, Leland McKenzie, and 716 00:40:17,290 --> 00:40:18,750 Daniel Morales. How do you do? Hi. 717 00:40:19,090 --> 00:40:22,270 Stewie, I want you to meet Nat Pincus. This is my cousin and colleague, Stuart 718 00:40:22,270 --> 00:40:23,270 Markowitz. Pincus. 719 00:40:23,350 --> 00:40:25,690 Pleasure. So, there are two Jews who work here. 720 00:40:25,970 --> 00:40:29,530 You know, I saw you many years ago at the Eden Rock Hotel in Miami Beach. 721 00:40:29,690 --> 00:40:31,650 Really? Yeah. What was I doing there? 722 00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:33,150 You were performing. 723 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,200 I thought I was loyal. 724 00:40:35,740 --> 00:40:37,080 No, you were very funny, actually. 725 00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:38,019 Thank you. 726 00:40:38,020 --> 00:40:39,020 Can I get you something? 727 00:40:39,620 --> 00:40:41,680 Just a cold drink, dear. 728 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,320 I'll make you some. 729 00:40:45,420 --> 00:40:48,340 Do you know much about the direct mail game? 730 00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:51,060 Did I hear you say direct mail? Yes, sir, you did. 731 00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:54,200 Bobby Delgiano, I built an entire business on direct mail. 732 00:40:54,420 --> 00:40:56,520 Dave Meyer, you know much about vertical markets? 733 00:40:56,740 --> 00:40:59,560 No, but I'd like to have you tell me. Freshen up his punch, would you, son? 734 00:41:00,060 --> 00:41:02,000 So you're asking me what I'm doing for New Year's Eve? 735 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,320 Yeah, I'm asking. 736 00:41:04,390 --> 00:41:07,530 Isn't it a little late to be, you know, looking for a date? 737 00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:12,790 No, I'm thinking of having a party. I'm going to have some friends over, have a 738 00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:15,270 little champagne, some dancing on the patio. 739 00:41:15,650 --> 00:41:16,950 Oh. So you're interested? 740 00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:18,670 Yeah, maybe. 741 00:41:18,970 --> 00:41:19,970 Good. 742 00:41:20,030 --> 00:41:23,290 Jonathan, there's a client or somebody looking for you. Oh, did you do the... 743 00:41:23,290 --> 00:41:25,690 I'll call you about the details. Right. 744 00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:28,510 You haven't seen Anne through here, have you? Yeah, I think she went that way. 745 00:41:28,610 --> 00:41:29,610 Yeah? Yeah. 746 00:41:30,270 --> 00:41:31,270 Hi. 747 00:41:32,850 --> 00:41:33,850 Hello, Denise. 748 00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:36,300 Hey. I wanted to say something to you. 749 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,000 All right. 750 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,000 Religious faith is a very personal thing. I know that. 751 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,600 And if I made you uncomfortable or somehow suggested that I was a better 752 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,380 than you, I want to apologize for that. The last thing I wanted to do was to 753 00:41:50,380 --> 00:41:51,380 judge you. 754 00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:55,460 Yeah, maybe I did make too big of a deal of it. I guess I jumped to the wrong 755 00:41:55,460 --> 00:41:56,460 conclusion, huh? 756 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,080 I, um, got you a Christmas present. 757 00:42:00,340 --> 00:42:02,460 Really? You didn't have to do that. 758 00:42:02,890 --> 00:42:05,050 And I hope you will take it in the spirit of which it's given. 759 00:42:06,370 --> 00:42:08,850 Did I open it now? I mean, we're not going to be spending Christmas morning 760 00:42:08,850 --> 00:42:12,790 together, so... Sure. Yeah? I love getting presents. 761 00:42:18,770 --> 00:42:19,770 Bible. 762 00:42:20,010 --> 00:42:24,910 I didn't know whether or not you had one. And I wanted to give you one. 763 00:42:25,130 --> 00:42:26,130 It's beautiful. 764 00:42:26,170 --> 00:42:27,009 Thank you. 765 00:42:27,010 --> 00:42:28,010 Merry Christmas. 766 00:42:28,210 --> 00:42:29,430 Merry Christmas to you. 767 00:42:30,090 --> 00:42:31,130 What do you think of the renovation? 768 00:42:32,030 --> 00:42:33,430 Oh, I love it. I think it's great. 769 00:42:33,650 --> 00:42:34,730 My office is next. 770 00:42:34,970 --> 00:42:35,970 Yeah. 771 00:42:39,690 --> 00:42:40,690 Okay. 772 00:42:41,230 --> 00:42:42,230 Okay. 773 00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:43,870 Let's talk in here. 774 00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:54,870 You want to be a father? 775 00:42:55,590 --> 00:42:56,590 Yes. 776 00:42:57,090 --> 00:42:58,090 Okay. 777 00:42:59,570 --> 00:43:00,570 Really? 778 00:43:01,390 --> 00:43:03,710 You left me, Tommy, and I was hurt. 779 00:43:04,690 --> 00:43:05,850 I was angry. 780 00:43:07,330 --> 00:43:13,170 I thought that if David adopted Casey, it would somehow change the way she came 781 00:43:13,170 --> 00:43:14,170 into the world. 782 00:43:15,070 --> 00:43:21,390 I can't do that. I can't change the fact that I came to you and asked you to 783 00:43:21,390 --> 00:43:22,390 father my child. 784 00:43:24,610 --> 00:43:25,910 I don't know what to say. 785 00:43:27,350 --> 00:43:30,030 But I can promise you I will never... 786 00:43:41,230 --> 00:43:42,810 Merry Christmas, Roxanne. 787 00:43:44,130 --> 00:43:45,130 Merry Christmas. 788 00:43:46,450 --> 00:43:49,190 Guy goes into a bar, orders a scotch. 789 00:43:49,650 --> 00:43:51,370 He says, don't tell me what kind. 790 00:43:52,070 --> 00:43:56,530 Bartender pause, takes a sip. He said, do us. He says, give me another bread. 791 00:43:57,730 --> 00:43:58,730 Bartender pause. 792 00:43:58,970 --> 00:44:05,070 He says... How do you talk? 793 00:44:06,110 --> 00:44:08,890 Dear, are we doing a two? 794 00:44:09,130 --> 00:44:10,130 Sorry. 795 00:44:11,500 --> 00:44:14,680 Bartender's getting sick of this. Goes outside, comes back with a plain bottle. 796 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:20,820 Pause. Guy takes the drink. He says, God, this is urine. He says, yeah, but 797 00:44:20,820 --> 00:44:21,820 whose? 798 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:24,320 Good, that's good. 799 00:44:24,580 --> 00:44:28,420 Okay. Guy's bragging about his hearing aid. He says, this is the greatest 800 00:44:28,420 --> 00:44:33,080 hearing aid you can buy. I spent $1 ,500 on this hearing aid. Friend says to 801 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,280 him, he says to him, 802 00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:42,680 What kind is it? He says half past four. 803 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,660 It's the only Henny could do that joke. It's Henny's joke, honey. 804 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:59,120 Guy goes home to his wife and he finds in his bed his partner. 805 00:45:02,940 --> 00:45:09,290 The guy goes into the kitchen and he says... Goes into the kitchen and he, 806 00:45:09,290 --> 00:45:16,130 The wife says... She 807 00:45:16,130 --> 00:45:20,330 says... Can I finish it, honey? 808 00:45:22,330 --> 00:45:23,650 Come on, let me finish it, okay? 809 00:45:24,350 --> 00:45:29,050 So, the wife says, um, what are you doing standing here drinking coffee? 810 00:45:30,010 --> 00:45:34,590 And she says, what about your partner? And he says, let him get his own coffee. 811 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:41,680 You ready to go, Nat? 812 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:44,560 Bye, everybody. 813 00:45:44,740 --> 00:45:46,220 Bye. Happy holidays.